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    • FHUGO_497023047467166
      FHUGO last edited by

      Hi,

      I love the the RLC-823A cameras but I find there is a bit of a tradeoff between Patrol and auto-tracking modes.

      Is there any future plan to have a feature that allows the camera to transition to auto-tracking if a person/vehicle is detected during patrol mode? I see the camera recognizes people and vehicles when patrolling so an interrupt to allow auto-tracking to kick in might be useful. Also having a "resume patrol" much like the "return to guard point" option would be awesome.

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        • Reolink Lorenz
          Lorenz @FHUGO last edited by

          @fhugo_497023047467166 Hi there, thank you for the suggestion. We have forwarded your words to our dev team and they will see if it is possible to make the auto-tracking mode to work together with the patrol mode. If there are any updates, we will let you know.

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          • ccmchurch_500522135650508
            ccmchurch @Lorenz last edited by

            @reolink-lorenz Please push them to make this happen as its an important feature it should have really as it already auto brings on the light and recognise people while patrolling but wont start to track them.
            I've also noticed i can't set the patrol pause times for each point on the android app only on the computer thats quite annoying when setting up.

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            • Reolink Lorenz
              Lorenz @ccmchurch last edited by

              @ccmchurch_500522135650508 Thank you for sharing your opinion with us and I will definitely forward your ideas to our team.

              In terms of the patrol speed settings, it is currently not available in the mobile app. We will see if it is possible to add it to the phone app in a future update.

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              • paul simmons home_307252888191230
                maximusto @Lorenz last edited by

                @reolink-lorenz In my opinion this request is actually a bug. Effectively in patrol more their is no auto-tacking ocuring. For each preset in a patrol, when the camera is not panning, then we should be able to specify the area of interest and motion alerts. Auto-tracking should also occur either for an amount of time or the item is no longer detected (movement stops).

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                • Chuck_529633235447953
                  Chuck @Lorenz last edited by

                  @reolink-lorenz I wonder if auto-zoom can also be added. Its nice tracking can detect a person but zooming would might make it possible to see their face.

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                  • marfowebster_162203802017976
                    marfowebster @Chuck last edited by

                    @chuck_529633235447953 I concur

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                    • marfowebster_162203802017976
                      marfowebster @FHUGO last edited by

                      @fhugo_497023047467166 I agree!!! this is a must have. I'm currently having to decide which to use. Auto tracking vs patrol. Why not have an auto tracking functionality while In patrol mode with zoom in functionality to see faces/plates of said object. Now that would be a huge selling point for reolink ptz cam.

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                      • Ryan Schneider_363086105718981
                        Ryan Schneider @Lorenz last edited by

                        @reolink-lorenz Confirming I came here because I was expecting the camera to switch to auto-tracking when in cruise/patrol and detected person/vehicle, etc. Optimistically waiting.

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                        • user_684177945944277_684177945944277
                          user_684177945944277 @ccmchurch last edited by

                          @ccmchurch_500522135650508 That should have happened a long time ago and still not a feature.

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                          • user_787414004850881_787414004850881
                            user_787414004850881 @user_684177945944277 last edited by

                            @user_684177945944277_684177945944277 I agree this is a very missing feature. The patrol mode enables us to use the PTZ function to scan broader areas (the whole purpose of having PTZ). Scanning is to FIND movement. Then the camera should track it, not rotate away when the timer on patrol hits. It would also be nice if turning on patrol could be via a schedule AND have that control exposed in the local API so things like Home Assistant could control it. Reolink, the first part has been requested for a long time. When will this feature be added?

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                          • robert leyzerovich_519547077562499
                            robert leyzerovich last edited by

                            Hey everyone,

                            Owner of 2 823A's.

                            The 823A's should already have auto zoom, this is the reason why I purchased the cameras.

                            I've brought this up to the support team and am not having any concise responses. I've written a response to the trackmix camera seeing if that model will fix the downfalls with the 823.

                            This is it:

                            How will the tracking work with the zoomed camera - currently I have the 823A and I have major issues with the zoom functionality. I've already brought up the issue to your team though no response has been given about it. Currently, on the 823A while zoomed in - auto track over compensates pan and skips ahead and then back on the subject, this occurs constantly and does not stop. Each time it tried to readjust it makes the pan greater in how much it moves left or right up to the point the subject is no longer in frame. Also while zoomed in with the 823A the motors for Pan and Tilt are not smooth and streamline, they are more skip here and skip there, thus the camera image actually wobbles ever so slightly, night time is just horrendous. How will this camera fix this issue that's currently known for the 823A cameras? Is the motor improved or the same? Is the wobbling fixed? Is the zoomed in mode adjustable in-terms of magnification? I bring this up because the two 823A cameras I purchased, were purchased for the purposes of a PTZ camera (Pan, Tilt and Zoom). The auto track feature for the cameras stated that the 823A would: "The pan/tilt function will adjust the direction of the camera so that moving objects can be tracked automatically, while the zoom function automatically adjusts according to the distance of the moving object." and "The camera will recognize the target according to the person/vehicle detection as well as use the pan/tilt/zoom function to track those objects and search areas that". I've attached a screenshot of the article of auto track. Your support has said they will be removing this from the site though people who have already purchased this camera for the specific purposes of auto zoom seem won't be able to have that option. I need a camera that can auto track with zooming in - this product seems to somewhat solve this request though I am very cautious with the motors. I know the motors of the 823A can be adjusted to allow a smooth transition for auto tracking, why this is not implemented? Possibly the sound? Instead of high pitch squeaks as it is now, a constant humming would not be an issue. There should be an option to allow a smooth tracking process.undefinedundefinedundefined

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                              • Reolink Fiona
                                Reolink Fiona @robert leyzerovich last edited by

                                @robert-leyzerovich_519547077562499
                                Hi there, we are still improving the auto-tracking of the RLC-823A. What's your firmware version of your RLC-823A cameras now? You can upgrade them with the firmware v3.1.0.956_22041511. Download the new firmware here, Download Center – Reolink.
                                If you have any new feedback, you can continue to feedback to us. Then we will transfer it to the our R & D team to see if it can be improved.

                                For the Trackmix, when it tracks, you can see the zoom capture in the second window. There are dual lenses, Telephoto, and short telephoto lenses.

                                I have recontacted the support team to deal with this article. Thank you so much for your feedback.

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                                • robert leyzerovich_519547077562499
                                  robert leyzerovich @Reolink Fiona last edited by

                                  @reolink-fiona
                                  The firmware for both cameras are up to date – they are v3.1.0.956_22041511

                                  Is the trackmix utilizing the same motor in the 823A or improved? Because of the motor and how it functions in the 823A when it moves it pans / tilts a great distance ahead of the subject, doing so the camera video blurs the image. Please have the pan / tilt allow us to choose between it’s current option of quick movements or a constant movement of the camera. 

                                  will the 823A with 16x zoom have auto zoom? I'm unsure why you guys would say you offer auto zoom on auto tracking but none of the cameras actually do.

                                  When the 823A is zoomed in it seems the tracking feature is not adjusted to the zoom and acts as if it was set at the widest angle, thus the tracking over pans / tilts and tries to move back onto the subject. When it tries to move back to the subject it yet again over pans / tilts and the process of it trying to move back onto the subject starts.

                                  Zoom with the PTZ is not viable, I've attached some examples of this issue. In the day time it's not that bad - at night it's unusable as the quality already drops as well as any movement from the camera blurs out the image - having it zoomed in at night is no longer an option.




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                                • horvat andrej_549923474403512
                                  horvat andrej last edited by

                                  Hi,
                                  I also would like auto-tracking feature to work while the camera is in patrol mode. When a camera stops at one point for a few seconds, it should detect movement and the auto-tracking should kick in. When there is nothing to track anymore, the camera should go back to patrolling. This functionality would be phenomenal. If there is no other way, limit patrolling at a certain point for a minimum time limit that the camera need`s to switch to detect and auto-track.
                                  Greetings from Slovenia.

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                                  • matrixfauly141020_542701124743356
                                    matrixfauly141020 last edited by

                                    @fhugo 497023047467166 I concur! This is essential. I have to choose which to utilize right now. Patrol vs. automatic tracking. Why not include a zoom-in feature that allows you to see the faces or plates of those objects when in auto tracking mode while in patrol mode. That would definitely make the Reolink PTZ Cam more appealing. octordle

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                                      • user_587474691784750_587474691784750
                                        user_587474691784750 last edited by

                                        Same problem for me. Either patrol or autotracking. I should not have to choose😠 👎

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                                        • user_648695082995808_648695082995808
                                          George last edited by user_648695082995808_648695082995808

                                          I also would very much like to have the camera auto-tracking when patrolling. There maybe a settling time requirement before auto-tracking, however if it was less than two seconds, it would be great!
                                          When tracking detects a vehicle, there should be an option to temporarily zoom in on a license plate number.
                                          As a side note, I noticed that the auto-focus has problems at night. Why not integrate the focus at each preset and start the focus from that point when patrolling.

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                                          • user_650858614890610_650858614890610
                                            user_650858614890610 last edited by

                                            I have 11, RLC-823A for a school. I am just finishing up the install and unfortunately am unhappy with the way the patrol and auto-tracking function. When in patrol it does not stop on movement--just records it while moving. When auto-tracking, it does not catch movement outside the field of view. Also, when manually adjusting PTZ it does not automatically go back into patrol mode.

                                            I purchased these cameras so I can have 11 instead of double the number, but it looks like it is not going to fit my needs because of these issues. I am slowly becoming an unhappy customer.

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                                            • user_681660084822168_681660084822168
                                              Jean last edited by

                                              Greetings,
                                              I second such a feature request. ATM I ordered a pack of 823A to cover all areas around a home, but having the auto-tracking not kicking in during a patrol is annoying. It is also especially inconvenient when the 823A is meant to light darker areas at night, where it is best to illuminate the subject, rather than having the camera moving out with the lights on to the next patrol point, sometimes 180° away from the detection point.
                                              In my case this was unforeseen, which leads me to return the rest of the pack. I am better off with static cameras instead of PTZ if the auto-tracking is deemed impossible during a patrol.

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                                              • lilonders_288520038867122
                                                lilonders last edited by

                                                I've seen a few posts online about tracking limits for the RLC-823A and at least one screen shot where this function is available under 'Alarm Settings'. I've just downloaded the Beta firmware (823A-20230611T013441Z-001) - limts are not included. Seems like something that's been asked for and under development for a really long time - when can we expect it to arrive?

                                                Additonally - has the latest android app (29th May) been fixed to allow camera feeds to be 'stretched' again? I'm sitting on an older version so that I don't have look at black vertial bars on either side eating up a third of the image.

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                                                  • joseph_1979
                                                    Joseph Global Moderator @lilonders last edited by

                                                    @lilonders_288520038867122 On multi view it has been restored but not for single view for some of the cams like E1, RLC-511WA, etc.

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                                                  • jakebenton_680398181605960
                                                    jakebenton last edited by

                                                    There is only one reason why this has not been implemented yet - to force customers to buy more cameras to get what they were misled into believing they would get in purchasing the 823A and others. When any normal person looks at a 360 degree PZT with patrol mode and auto-tracking, they naturally and rightly assume that product will cover a 360 degree area without disabling one of the major features of the camera. The aren't implementing this so you will have to buy more cameras - There is simply no other reason that have ignored very obvious and programmatically easy to implement fix like this.

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                                                    • bk
                                                      bk last edited by

                                                      Beating a dead horse here

                                                      This thread has been here for 17 months now with no fix! I also am unhappy with my RLC-823A

                                                      *No auto tracking with patrol


                                                      *No auto zoom
                                                      *Horrible auto focus when using zoom at night
                                                      *Only 1 detection zone to grey out detection areas, it is applied to all patrol points, making it useless
                                                      *When camera is moving if it sees a parked car it sends me a vehicle detected alert, over and over until vehicle is moved, this makes vehicle detection completely useless to me.

                                                      Having said all that, unless these issues are fixed I will never buy another or recommend a reolink ptz. Horrible horrible horrible guys most of the good advertised features do not work properly

                                                      Firmware Versionv3.1.0.989_22051911_v1.0.0.30

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                                                          Jack lambert @bk last edited by jacklambert

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                                                          Jack lambert last edited by

                                                          Yep.. same here. Patrol and auto tracking are what I bout the RLC-823A for. They don’t work together which makes this PTZ basically useless.

                                                          My parked vehicles, my shed and shop are all detected vehicles so that great functionality is turned off including my flood lights.

                                                          Patrol detects motion in one of the defined presets and just continues to the next preset (this is where auto tracking is supposed to come in but NOT. USELESS!

                                                          Turn on auto tracking with patrol and it’s good one time. When auto tracking is done that’s where the camera stays until you manually restart patrol. USELESS!

                                                          One would think the detection zone could cover your vehicles. Remove the area your vehicles are located hence no detection. Nope! The detection zone moves in my testing on the PTZ. Somehow on patrol detection zones are USELESS!

                                                          Time for Reolink to get up off they’re a**’es and make these features work together.

                                                          Until then “DO NOT PURCHASE THIS CAMERA”







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                                                          • bk
                                                            bk last edited by bk

                                                            putting a small band aid on a broken leg with a large gash

                                                            Jack
                                                            try setting your vehicle detection time to 3 seconds, and sensitivity at 42, this seems to help me with the parked vehicle detection alerts

                                                            "Time for Reolink to get up off they’re a**’es and make these features work together.

                                                            Until then “DO NOT PURCHASE THIS CAMERA” yup

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                                                              • jacklambert
                                                                Jack lambert @bk last edited by

                                                                @bk Thanks for the settings. I'll give it a try while they are working on the protection grey out area for PTZ's. 🤥

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                                                              • Neoxen_689456600318178
                                                                Neoxen last edited by

                                                                Hello

                                                                In the latest firmware for "RLC-823A 16X" Patrol mode & Auto track works together!👍

                                                                For the "RLC-823A" I don't now...

                                                                /Magnus

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                                                                    Joseph Global Moderator @Neoxen last edited by

                                                                    @neoxen_689456600318178 Correct.

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                                                                    • Reolink Lorenz
                                                                      Lorenz @Neoxen last edited by

                                                                      @neoxen_689456600318178 We have also released firmware v3.1.0.2217 for 823A that supports auto-tracking even if the camera is on patrol mode. 😊

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                                                                    • Mickael_709195517841646
                                                                      Mickael last edited by

                                                                      hello, to date still no return to patrol mode after automatic tracking, and no zoom on the object either, moreover patrol mode should be integrated into the nvr too, as well as a return of patrol mode to home assistant. If the problem of returning to patrol is not corrected, this camera is completely useless because we have to make too significant a compromise in security and that is why this camera is dedicated to monitoring. thank you.

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                                                                        • joseph_1979
                                                                          Joseph Global Moderator @Mickael last edited by

                                                                          @mickael_709195517841646 I suggest you to submit your request on https://support.reolink.com/requests/

                                                                          This function seems to be available on the 16x.

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                                                                          user_840462593638621 last edited by

                                                                          I know this thread is quite old, but I have the latest firmware on my 823A and I do not get auto tracking during Patrol. Is it only available in the beta version that was posted here? or does that feature require a NVR? I'm not sure why a newer release than the beta wouldn't have that feature in it.

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