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    • FHUGO_497023047467166
      FHUGO last edited by

      Hi,

      I love the the RLC-823A cameras but I find there is a bit of a tradeoff between Patrol and auto-tracking modes.

      Is there any future plan to have a feature that allows the camera to transition to auto-tracking if a person/vehicle is detected during patrol mode? I see the camera recognizes people and vehicles when patrolling so an interrupt to allow auto-tracking to kick in might be useful. Also having a "resume patrol" much like the "return to guard point" option would be awesome.

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        • Reolink Lorenz
          Lorenz Administrators @FHUGO last edited by

          @fhugo_497023047467166 Hi there, thank you for the suggestion. We have forwarded your words to our dev team and they will see if it is possible to make the auto-tracking mode to work together with the patrol mode. If there are any updates, we will let you know.

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          • ccmchurch_500522135650508
            ccmchurch @Lorenz last edited by

            @reolink-lorenz Please push them to make this happen as its an important feature it should have really as it already auto brings on the light and recognise people while patrolling but wont start to track them.
            I've also noticed i can't set the patrol pause times for each point on the android app only on the computer thats quite annoying when setting up.

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          • robert leyzerovich_519547077562499
            robert leyzerovich last edited by

            Hey everyone,

            Owner of 2 823A's.

            The 823A's should already have auto zoom, this is the reason why I purchased the cameras.

            I've brought this up to the support team and am not having any concise responses. I've written a response to the trackmix camera seeing if that model will fix the downfalls with the 823.

            This is it:

            How will the tracking work with the zoomed camera - currently I have the 823A and I have major issues with the zoom functionality. I've already brought up the issue to your team though no response has been given about it. Currently, on the 823A while zoomed in - auto track over compensates pan and skips ahead and then back on the subject, this occurs constantly and does not stop. Each time it tried to readjust it makes the pan greater in how much it moves left or right up to the point the subject is no longer in frame. Also while zoomed in with the 823A the motors for Pan and Tilt are not smooth and streamline, they are more skip here and skip there, thus the camera image actually wobbles ever so slightly, night time is just horrendous. How will this camera fix this issue that's currently known for the 823A cameras? Is the motor improved or the same? Is the wobbling fixed? Is the zoomed in mode adjustable in-terms of magnification? I bring this up because the two 823A cameras I purchased, were purchased for the purposes of a PTZ camera (Pan, Tilt and Zoom). The auto track feature for the cameras stated that the 823A would: "The pan/tilt function will adjust the direction of the camera so that moving objects can be tracked automatically, while the zoom function automatically adjusts according to the distance of the moving object." and "The camera will recognize the target according to the person/vehicle detection as well as use the pan/tilt/zoom function to track those objects and search areas that". I've attached a screenshot of the article of auto track. Your support has said they will be removing this from the site though people who have already purchased this camera for the specific purposes of auto zoom seem won't be able to have that option. I need a camera that can auto track with zooming in - this product seems to somewhat solve this request though I am very cautious with the motors. I know the motors of the 823A can be adjusted to allow a smooth transition for auto tracking, why this is not implemented? Possibly the sound? Instead of high pitch squeaks as it is now, a constant humming would not be an issue. There should be an option to allow a smooth tracking process.undefinedundefinedundefined

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              • Reolink Fiona
                Reolink Fiona Administrators @robert leyzerovich last edited by

                @robert-leyzerovich_519547077562499
                Hi there, we are still improving the auto-tracking of the RLC-823A. What's your firmware version of your RLC-823A cameras now? You can upgrade them with the firmware v3.1.0.956_22041511. Download the new firmware here, Download Center – Reolink.
                If you have any new feedback, you can continue to feedback to us. Then we will transfer it to the our R & D team to see if it can be improved.

                For the Trackmix, when it tracks, you can see the zoom capture in the second window. There are dual lenses, Telephoto, and short telephoto lenses.

                I have recontacted the support team to deal with this article. Thank you so much for your feedback.

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                • robert leyzerovich_519547077562499
                  robert leyzerovich @Reolink Fiona last edited by

                  @reolink-fiona
                  The firmware for both cameras are up to date – they are v3.1.0.956_22041511

                  Is the trackmix utilizing the same motor in the 823A or improved? Because of the motor and how it functions in the 823A when it moves it pans / tilts a great distance ahead of the subject, doing so the camera video blurs the image. Please have the pan / tilt allow us to choose between it’s current option of quick movements or a constant movement of the camera. 

                  will the 823A with 16x zoom have auto zoom? I'm unsure why you guys would say you offer auto zoom on auto tracking but none of the cameras actually do.

                  When the 823A is zoomed in it seems the tracking feature is not adjusted to the zoom and acts as if it was set at the widest angle, thus the tracking over pans / tilts and tries to move back onto the subject. When it tries to move back to the subject it yet again over pans / tilts and the process of it trying to move back onto the subject starts.

                  Zoom with the PTZ is not viable, I've attached some examples of this issue. In the day time it's not that bad - at night it's unusable as the quality already drops as well as any movement from the camera blurs out the image - having it zoomed in at night is no longer an option.




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                  • Reolink Fiona
                    Reolink Fiona Administrators @robert leyzerovich last edited by Reolink Fiona

                    @robert-leyzerovich_519547077562499
                    Thanks for the response. Now only the camera TrackMix has the auto-tracking with auto-zoom now. Its motor is different from the RLC-823A.

                    For the feedback on the RLC-823 auto-tracking, I will send the videos to the tech for further improvement. Can you offer the videos in clear mode and add it to the Drive? Thank you so much!

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                    • Chuck_529633235447953
                      Chuck @robert leyzerovich last edited by

                      @robert-leyzerovich_519547077562499 How did you get yours to stay with the target while in view? Mines goes back to the guard point after xxx and no longer tracks the target even while they're visible to the camera.

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                      • robert leyzerovich_519547077562499
                        robert leyzerovich @Chuck last edited by

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                        • Chuck_529633235447953
                          Chuck @robert leyzerovich last edited by

                          @robert-leyzerovich_519547077562499 Thanks but that would leave the camera in position for 5 minutes even when a car speeds through the zone.

                          Here's what I'm looking for, lets say a person walking their dog comes across our grass. The camera will track them up to the guard point setting them return to the set point. I would like it to keep tracking them as long as it can so we can see whose dogs are taking dumps on our grass. That way we can get the owners to pick it up.

                          Suppose a robber walks through the guard point on their way to a window. The camera will track them up to the guard point setting them return to the set point. I would like it to stay on the person and film them intruding our premise so we have evidence to give police.

                          Otherwise it's working just fine returning to the set point for things that move quickly through the zone.

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                          • Martin Kistell_73972976554167
                            Martin Kistell @Chuck last edited by

                            @chuck_529633235447953 Fully agree, I have multiple instances where the camera has detected a person (usually a dog shitting), then as soon as they stop moving it goes straight back to guard position and all the video of them is lost. I have auto return set to zero purely because the tracking is not working great, often it will notice them at the edge of my guard area (say righthand side) and move the camera out of guard area (to the right) and the subject walks back into the guard area (on the left) with out detecting them and its facing the wrong way (still sat at the right hand side).

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                          • horvat andrej_549923474403512
                            horvat andrej last edited by

                            Hi,
                            I also would like auto-tracking feature to work while the camera is in patrol mode. When a camera stops at one point for a few seconds, it should detect movement and the auto-tracking should kick in. When there is nothing to track anymore, the camera should go back to patrolling. This functionality would be phenomenal. If there is no other way, limit patrolling at a certain point for a minimum time limit that the camera need`s to switch to detect and auto-track.
                            Greetings from Slovenia.

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                            • matrixfauly141020_542701124743356
                              matrixfauly141020 last edited by

                              @fhugo 497023047467166 I concur! This is essential. I have to choose which to utilize right now. Patrol vs. automatic tracking. Why not include a zoom-in feature that allows you to see the faces or plates of those objects when in auto tracking mode while in patrol mode. That would definitely make the Reolink PTZ Cam more appealing. octordle

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                                • user_587474691784750_587474691784750
                                  user_587474691784750 last edited by

                                  Same problem for me. Either patrol or autotracking. I should not have to choose😠 👎

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                                  • user_648695082995808_648695082995808
                                    George last edited by user_648695082995808_648695082995808

                                    I also would very much like to have the camera auto-tracking when patrolling. There maybe a settling time requirement before auto-tracking, however if it was less than two seconds, it would be great!
                                    When tracking detects a vehicle, there should be an option to temporarily zoom in on a license plate number.
                                    As a side note, I noticed that the auto-focus has problems at night. Why not integrate the focus at each preset and start the focus from that point when patrolling.

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                                    • user_650858614890610_650858614890610
                                      user_650858614890610 last edited by

                                      I have 11, RLC-823A for a school. I am just finishing up the install and unfortunately am unhappy with the way the patrol and auto-tracking function. When in patrol it does not stop on movement--just records it while moving. When auto-tracking, it does not catch movement outside the field of view. Also, when manually adjusting PTZ it does not automatically go back into patrol mode.

                                      I purchased these cameras so I can have 11 instead of double the number, but it looks like it is not going to fit my needs because of these issues. I am slowly becoming an unhappy customer.

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