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@joseph_1979 spelling comprehension is important. Edited! Thanks!That is exactly my point. For the price difference, I am wondering why even test/add motion tracking on the Argus PT Ultra. The price/feature difference makes the Altas an easy upgrade choice.To that, I think I read somewhere (maybe Redit) that the Altas with continuous record ON (required for pre-detection recording) only has maybe a week of runtime on battery alone. And that the always ON schedule does not allow for a full 24/7. There is a daily limit. I will try to find it.Regardless, I think the Altas PT Ultra will be my next purchase.
@reolink-oskar I have been testing/evaluating the Argus PT Ultra Motion Tracking version. I am curious, with the negligible price difference between the Altas and the Argus, why did Reolink decide to test motion tracking in the Argus? The Altas seems like an easy upgrade choice if you want motion tracking.
@pilotbum_610109044129914 many HA's are heavily dependent on cloud services and as a result, network issues such as latency could impact performance. For example, I can not use Reolink's Google Home integration as I experience on average 8 seconds of latency in video startup and live viewing through Google Home. In my head, something like multiple sensors in the camera base to monitor for motion in a 270-360 degree field might work better.
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@joseph_1979 I hope they are paying attention regularly. As a family, we do a lot of RV'ing. Not a day does by with the big rig that I wonder if engineers ever spend time camping/touring in a motorhome that they have designed. I am active in several branded motorhome groups an while there are factory reps that monitor them, it seems like the information goes nowhere.
@sparker_825114123485429 Choppy from the... mobile app?... Are you on cellular service or local area Wi-Fi? It is specific to particular connection type?
@kimchigun it’s 8° today however last week it was above freezing, 34 to 38° daily on average with sun and I wasn’t getting charging. Could simply be some quality consistency issues with whoever supplies the batteries. I know of a lot of batteries won’t charge below 40F. Maybe that’s what I am experiencing.
@joseph_1979 that's how it SHOULD work, but it does not. With this camera (at least with mine), post-recording time starts as soon as motion is detected NOT after the motion stops. I can jump in front of the camera momentarily and it will recorded the full 30 seconds. My son can do a 3-minute Fortnite dance in middle of the FOV and it will fragment after 30-seconds with multiple video fragments to follow. I have tried this repeated times and the initial fragment is 8, 15, 30 seconds respectively. I am convinced that there is a firmware bug.
@kimchigun Happy wife, happy life something something hahaha. I did have to disable "Other" as well as "Vehicle" since turning up the PIR sensitivity.
@radioastronomy_410111540293820 I have some generic IR lights from Amazon. They use a simple photo sensor for when to turn on. I find that they come on well before it's took dark for the cameras to be effective. Your mileage will vary of course.Not that I encourage this as it will certainly void warranties, but it is conceivable (with the proper skill set) to take the Reolink PoE floodlight and replace the white LEDs with IR arrays.
@peter_748442346729617 a visible camera caused social problems. A hidden camera, if discovered, would also cause problems. So you are looking for something that can be hidden but if discovered doesn't look like it has been hidden... because... you think that won't cause problems? Is there a legal issue at play here? None of my business but it sounds like you either need to 1) not monitor that area -or- 2) work out the social problems.In any event, 1" - 2" sized minimalist cameras do exist. Not from Reolink, but there are dozens of options out there.
Quick update. After some discussion with @joseph_1979 and @KimchiGUN I tweaked some settings and the results are as follows:1) Increasing the post-detection recording from 8-seconds to 15-seconds and 30-seconds does not prevent fragmenting of the event the video. It only affects the first fragment of the event. The first fragment is 8, 15, or 30 seconds (based on setting) and the remaining event video is fragment at random lengths. I suspect this is a firmware oversight as the post-detection timer should trigger ONLY after motion is no longer detected. The way it is now, you get either 8, 15 or 30 seconds of static video before another function takes over.2) The default PIR sensitivity is 80. Increasing to 90 reduced some fragmenting. Increasing to 100 further reduced fragmenting however I could not get fewer than 3 fragments even with 2 minutes of continuous motion. First fragment was 30 seconds, second fragment was 48 seconds and third fragment was 46 seconds. Having the sensitivity up that high introduces other issues but I will attempt to overcome those via settings before I comment.Without a better understanding of how the camera determines when to split video, I can only assume that there is a firmware oversight or a bug.
@joseph_1979 laziness averted. First test run video upload and link added to original post.
@kimchigun My battery has never shown the lightning bolt except during charge from USB wall charger. With panel connected, I get the sunburst icon but never the lighting bolt icon. I am wondering if I have a bad panel.I am starting to play PIR sensitivity an other settings to see if I get less fragments.
@joseph_1979 I have increased it to 15 seconds. The options are 8, 15, 30. I'll post back when I get some data. If I stop being lazy today, I'll see about getting the initial test clips uploaded to YouTube.
@kimchigun I am in SE Michigan. Weather has been similar, cold, overcast and rain with a few days of sun. Fully charged before install and today sitting at 52%. The 3W solar panel has never shown to be charging even on the few fully sunny days we have had. Average 1% drop on days with little to no detections, 2-3% on days that I play/test the camera.Also, I am having an occurrence of recorded events being fragmented in to multiple videos, even with constant motion occurring. Even had one occurrence where the video fragments during a tracking event.
@joseph_1979 it fragments the video with constant motion still in the FOV. It will also fragment the video in the middle of tracking as well.
@joseph_1979 From my limited use of this unit so far, agreed... Battery cams that support 24/7 recording (always on) are better candidates for motion tracking. I have found that if the object is coming towards the camera, there is enough time to power-up and track. However if the object is moving across the FOV, it has a high probability of missing. I'd like to give the Atlas a try at some point.As for 360 PIR, they could simply add multiple sensors around the base. If one or more sensors detects motion, the camera rotates to that direction. It might not be that simple, but it works like that in my head.I am going to have to test the solar panel. Granted it is winter here and the sun is at it's lowest azimuth to me (although I do have the panel angled to match), but even if there are zero detection events in a given day, the battery percentage does not go up. It has been a steady decrease at an average of 1-percent per day. The days that I test the camera, it drop 2-3 percent. I am wondering if perhaps the panel is defective.I like the specs on the TrackMix but for this area I don't need wide-angle as I have a Duo2 overhead on the 2nd floor roofline. Honestly, I don't even really need motion tracking for this application (I just need to monitor the deck door) but I like the option of manually panning over to the pond and capturing events.I am having zero Wi-Fi issues. My Home Hub Pro is at the front of the house on the second floor so assuming the antenna has a donut signal shape, this orientation is ideal. But to our points, having RSSI or a percentage would help users fine-tune placement although I think percentage would be more user-friendly. Or why not both? Case-in-point, the HHP is in the room directly above my Wi-Fi doorbell and that shows 2 bars signal strength. No signal issues but I am very curious on he actual signal strength.My recording schedule is set for always. The post-detection recording is set for 8-seconds and oddly, the first video segment of any event is always 8-seconds. It's almost if the camera is not recognizing that the event is longer than 8-seconds so it stops recording and then immediately starts again. But that does not explain the continuous video fragmentation (at random lengths) for a single event. I am going to increase the post-detection recording time to see if the first video segment time matches.
@philhal2_823788642009256 this is an older FAQ. I am currently running version 4.51.1.2. When setting up a new camera, add it to the app as a standalone so you can connect it to a different Wi-Fi network. You can then add it to your Home Hub. If you setup up a new camera directly into a Home Hub, it will be setup on the Home Hub's Wi-Fi by default.
I have had the opportunity to test this model. Just some brief thoughts here and I am happy to answer any questions to the best of my ability.
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